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mayonnaise [Sep. 23rd, 2009|11:54 am]
I haven't bought this stuff in years, but it was time. I had a craving for the ancient blend of mayonnaise and canned tuna. And I made something magnificent out of it. I can't give a proper recipe, because I didn't measure, but the key points are tons of parsley (and I should have had more), three cloves of garlic, WALNUTS!, hot sauce, a bit of salt and pepper. Very light and filling and delectable. Perhaps about a tablespoon of onion would have made it entirely perfect. I shall now proceed to stink happily of garlic and live forever.
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viva la.... [Mar. 18th, 2009|02:30 pm]
I found this essay the other day, and I like it quite a bit. It's about one facet of the revolution that I do feel that we're living through, because isn't the internet at least as powerful change in the way information is circulated as the printing press? And the world is changing so fast in so many other ways too. But maybe this has happened before, maybe this isn't the final acceleration toward the end of history, though it's hard to imagine a slowdown at this point. Anyway, it's always nice to find the work of someone more articulate than me who I happen to agree with:

http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2009/03/newspapers-and-thinking-the-unthinkable/
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Barack Obama is my president. [Jan. 20th, 2009|03:20 pm]
In a way no leader of this country ever has been, or probably ever will be again. Something about the way he thinks, and of course speaks, can move me and inspire me in a way that is utterly unfamiliar. It's a little alarming, actually. It feels much safer to be entirely wary of the government, entirely disdainful of politicians. But I can't be this time. It's almost like he's forcing me to believe in him against my will. Not that I ever thought he was a bad guy, I just thought he was too inexperienced at first, like everyone else did. But then I read a speech, I have no idea which one, and it moved me to tears. And I was freakishly inspired, and I decided that this guy needed to be our next president. That he could be the greatest president of my lifetime. And so I donated, and looked into volunteering, and I guess he had the same effect on enough other people that, well, here he is. But I'm a sensible person who maintains my general sense of optimism and hope through a rigorous regimen of low expectations, so by this morning I was back to a place where I was hoping for some competence, and that was about it. And then I went and read some portions of his inaugural address, and here I am back in the place I was when I thought he might be the best president I'd ever see, if we could only get him elected. And here he's elected now, and I'm freakishly inspired again. And it might be that the biggest problem I'll have for the next four years is maintaining my skepticism, not my hope. And it's a little scary.
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art and/or craft [Jan. 9th, 2009|04:19 pm]
My new notion of the existence of these eternal concepts is that "art" is the declaration (to oneself and others) of one's existence as a unique entity, and "craft" is the means by which you make "art", which is merely an idea, come to be. Or rather less than what we normally think of as an idea, because the words or images required to form a clear mental construct would be part of the craft aspect. The first step in the process of transforming a thing so elusive we can't quite fix our minds on it into an actual something. A step which it's more efficient to not really be aware of. An idea for how to go about creating is plenty to occupy one's time. And thinking about the other is really quite impossible anyway. Better to just make stuff and not even think about this. Except that I think it might be useful, in the eternal quest to make art, as opposed to just craft, to think about what it is I most want to make in any given moment. Not what would be clever, or beautiful, or interesting to other people, or new, or unique, or (though I don't tend towards this) shocking. And I shouldn't be trying to avoid being shocking, either. The only way to access my capacity for art, to make something truly of me, is to let all those other considerations take care of themselves, and trust in my inspiration. This is so redolant of common sense. Perhaps not even worth writing down. But maybe the overthinking brought on by art school makes it necessary.

And I do want to say that craft is awesome, and I love making it myself. It's just different. And not by category. A table exquisitely carved is art; a hack novel...oh, but there I go making value judgements the distinction. It was so clear in my head, before I tried to set it down.

I'll retry this later, with more time to percolate.
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Lady Windermere's Fan [Oct. 3rd, 2008|03:48 pm]
I got this Oscar Wilde Collection thing from the library, and it was mostly kind of standard British TV stuff. But the last one was absolutely spectacular, and I might buy the whole collection if that's the only way to own it.

Helen Little, playing Lady Windermere was pretty much perfect throughout. In the beginning she was a somewhat brittle character, charming but shallow. And so painfully young. I loved her understated acting...the woman playing Gwedolen in "The Importance of Being Earnest" in the same collection almost ruined the whole thing for me. And she just inhabits her part so well, and I found myself caring about her character so much, that I couldn't bear to finish watching the play the first two nights I tried. I hate spoilers more than anyone I know, but in the end I had to make sure she'd be ok before I could finish watching. And she was more than ok, she became a far better person than she started out. It's something that I've never seen done as well, I think, a total break with innocence, with the character remaining remaining good throughout, and stronger afterwards.

But even, so she's not as interesting to me in the end as Stephanie Turner, playing Mrs. Erlynne. I suppose I knew this character would be ok, no matter what her circumstance. This was a more dramatic, darker, less innocent role, and I loved to watch her in both her light, flirty, Wildean mode and in her moments of revealing intensity, when she seemed to gain twenty years in a moment. Watching her switch back and forth was one of the amazing things I've seen an actor do. Her story, her character arc, feels incomplete to me in the best possible way. I hope she finds the courage someday to admit her secret. I might actually have to go and write a little sequel myself someday, I'm so weirdly involved in all these character's lives now.
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the frightful joyousness of life [Jul. 30th, 2008|02:56 pm]
[music |Awesome - Beehive Sessions]

How's this for a philosophy...

http://essays.quotidiana.org/chesterton/running_after_ones_hat/

      
                                                 .....it quite suits me.  I've been calling inconveniences adventures for years.
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a set of words I found [Jun. 16th, 2008|08:07 pm]
"The Crows At 3 a.m."

by Stanley Plumly


The politically correct, perfect snow of Vermont

undulant under the lightly bruised, moonlit-backed-

becoming-storm-clouds slowing then speeding just above

the line of blue spruce on Mt. Mansfield here in

what I’m told is the state’s “cloudiest county,”

vaguely an analogy for the plate tectonics of the blankets

constantly shifting from the left to the right side

of my body, pulling the heart, until by dawn I’m holding on,

waking with the cold, somehow looking at my hands

that, in the pearl dark, look like the first fall castings

of the sycamore, those pocked dry leaves

that were my mother’s final hands: sallow

dying coloring, mapping liverspots, rootlike

veining texturing the underdermal surfaces. The test,

 

writes Fitzgerald, in an essay called “The Crack-Up,”

of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold

opposing ideas in the mind at the same time yet retain

the ability to function. He couldn’t, he says, so he cracked

like a plate. He is trying to update Keats’s

notion of “Negative Capability, that is

when a man is capable of being in uncertainties,

Mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact

& reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go

by a fine isolated verisimilitude

caught from the Penetralium of mystery,

from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge.”

When I heard the crows, like raven-geese, rending the dark,

filling the falling snow with wings,

                                                            I thought, for a moment,

they were speaking or singing.

Crows at the hour—Fitzgerald again—of the dark night

of the soul, Poe-like crows chasing back and forth

in a quandary or a quarrel, up and down the Gihon.

Then they disappeared, let me drift back into sleep

to find my hands holding my mother’s hands as if to help her

rise from the cold dead dream light of Vermont.

Stevens’s some twenty blackbirds differ only in their scale:

the beauty of inflections and innuendos,

shadows passing out of hearing, out of sight,

but no less present in the settled order. Thus the river’s moving,

the blackbird must be flying, two half-knowledges

or halves of one knowing. Those who love us who now live

in the air live in a loneliness we sometimes imagine.

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I got my Harborcoat, I got my Orange Crush [May. 27th, 2008|11:13 pm]
Dancing barefoot on a grassy terrace in the dark, in the blowing rain that chased off all the people crowding me in.  No better way to hear Orange Crush.  Battered by the elements, by the glorious volume of the noise, buffered by sheer and absolute joy.
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possibly the coolest thing ever [May. 15th, 2008|11:17 pm]
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(and if the fancy embedding doesn't work...)
http://www.vimeo.com/993998
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fragment [May. 5th, 2008|12:57 am]
The night air is graceful and sinuous
It washes my face and chills my arms in my jacket

The stories of those I love hang in my mind like glowing yarns
I want to hug them close to me, cling tight so they can't twist away

(Paths that cross will cross again)

All that needs to be said will be said
All the love that can be given should
What hasn't changed, hasn't yet
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Decadence on the Cheap [May. 1st, 2008|07:57 pm]
2pm
Crumpet with marmite + espresso con ciocolata.....3.75+1.00 tip
Wine tasting, selected bottle..........................................5.00, 16.50
Columbian Hot Chocolate shot.............................................50 cents
Tea tasting, one cup puer.................................................4.00
Sitting at a stone table with a view of the Sound and engaging in intense conversation about human nature....free
appetizer courses at SAM Taste...................................13.58+3.00 tip
6:30pm


Four hours and a half hours spent excellently with Dreeha indeed.

my mind is working like a mastercard commercial and it's freaking me out.
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The Word [Apr. 2nd, 2008|09:43 pm]
There is a word that does not yet exist, at least in English, or else I am not aware of it.  Therefore I am on a quest for it.  It describes this:

The moment of realizing that everything fits together properly, with equal flavoring of the fateful and the ridiculous and the sublime and the strange.  This could be in relation to a person, a place, a job, a decision, a coincidence, a waterfall....

Please let me know if you can help me find my missing word, in any language.
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Things I love about Seattle... [Mar. 12th, 2008|02:38 pm]
[music |Jeff Buckley - Sketches for my sweethearth the drunk]

The opportunity to sell a sandwich to Dave Matthews
The charming girl from Theo who always has chocolate to share
The collective wealth our library bestows
The way everyone sits outside in the cold to eat their lunch, for the sake of the sunlight
The glorious ocean sunsets above the sound and the mountains and the needle  
The absolute genius glory of "Awesome"
The warm social press of friends and those who are not quite yet
The spot where the perfect beer hall faces the perfect chocolate factory, and they fall in love, I know they do
The troll
The plethora of suitable used book stores
The soothing green of excessive water
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Scotland [Mar. 2nd, 2008|03:03 pm]
[music |Woodland Creatures Collective volume 2]

I'm currently listening to the best possible souvenir of my time there.  It's a compilation CD, put together just from the music of people in one Glasgow neighborhood who happen to know each other.  They call themselves the Woodland Creatures Collective.   And it's spectacular.  I mean, some of the songs could be mixed better or whatever.  But there's one girl I met at the hostel from Canada who'd given up on music entirely, and I'd love to give her something like this.  One neighborhood!  And it will always remind me of the people who gave it to me, playing brilliant music on stage, then under the night sky on a patch of grass on the way to their flat, just because they could.  Then talking for hours with them and their friends over microwave pizza and tea by candlelight.  And of course I'd only met them that night, and I fell in love with all of them.
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Napoli [Feb. 17th, 2008|05:26 pm]
There were two good things about Naples.  I tasted pizza with just tomato, garlic, oregano and oil, and it was an almost religious experience.  And me and Em sat and watched the best display of roosting birds perhaps ever known to man.  We were a block or two away, and we could see this great strange cloud of little flecks twisting and undulating in the wind.  After a moment we realized it must be birds, but I’ve never seen birds move like this, and might never again.  It was like a living creature, this flock, one that swelled and attenuated and whipped around like snakes, and formed shapes like whales and hats.  Thousands and thousands of them, swirling and undulating and darkening, and then suddenly fading into a simple flock spread out against the sky.  But they kept on swirling around again and again for at least fifteen minutes before it got truly dark, and so many of them landed in the trees around the square that there were almost more wings than leaves.
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end of phase one [Feb. 16th, 2008|01:22 pm]
After Rome, the seamless mastery of planning that my sister had gifted us all with started to break down a bit.  Sorrento was a truly charming town, but we spent most of the 14th getting there, and had to leave early in the morning on the 15th to explore Pompeii, so we only had one evening to wander about in the dusk.  They had a proper town celbration for their festival of lovers, so we paraded through the main street on the way to our hotel surrounded by tables of sweets and nuts and knicknacks, which we never made it back to explore.  But we found a little shop where they gave us samples of limoncello and it’s milder, tastier relative made with some cream.  We all bought some of that, and some chocolate covered candied lemon peels (so divine it’s impossible to describe), and my mom and sister bought some perfume in the glory of the moment that they don’t like quite as much in the sober reality of Naples.  Because that’s where we’ve ended up for our last two nights in the south, not the hotel carved out of a cliff in Matera, a town so off the beaten path we couldn’t quite manage the logistics to get there.  Quite a difference.  Napoli is the dirty, international city of ripoffs and stray dogs and The Pizza.  The only art worth seeing are the artifacts of Pompeii that someone or other stole for their grand city.  But I’m taking a break from that stuff, recovering from what’s come so far in anticipation of my 12 hour mad scramble across Europe to find the best, cheapest hostel in Glasgow.  

The key things I’ve learned about travel: it doesn’t matter how comfortable your stylish shoes are, bring some that are actually designed for walking all day.  Never plan out more than five hours of any given day if you can possibly help it (i.e. alternate days of significant travel and intense sightseeing, never combine them).  Stay at least two nights in each place.  Intead of packing for an even five days, pack 2 days worth of outer clothes and 10 days worth of socks and underwear.  Always have a basic grasp of the language.  On that last one I got away without it this time, as my sister’s been living here, and my dad, with his good understanding of Spanish and Latin, picked up Italian almost instantaneously.  But my trip would have been a lot more difficult without them.  Also, traveling seems a lot more important than it did before.  Obviously it’ll be at least a year until my next big trip, but I don’t think it’ll be much more than that.  Two weeks is a better length than a month.  I’ll probably head to India next year, and maybe to Northern Europe the year after that.  I need to see a lot more Flemish art.  

Which reminds me of one of the highlights I’d forgotten about until now.  In (I think) the Dodge’s Palace in Florence, there were three paintings by Hironymous Bosch, including Hell, one of his best.  There is nothing in the world like the weirdness that man could paint.  I feel kind of addicted now.  Actually one of my favorite things about the art here was all the weird little details that no one pays enough attention to.  They notice the grand sweeping statue, and ignore the strange, fat little dragon carved into the wall below it.  They reproduce a rather boring painting like The Birth of Venus endlessly, and no one ever sees the Bodecelli painting full of seemingly random figures and symbols that no one can decipher.  There was a huge, glorious painting of the adoration of the shepards in the Uffizi Gallery from the early 1400s.  It had the relatively stiff figures typical of the period, but the cow in the background was so warm and full of life you almost felt like you could pet it.  And you could look farther back (this was a northern fellow, I believe) and see a dozen little scenes in extreme detail.  And you could look up and see clouds more perfectly real than anyone else was painting until about 400 years later.  Not because they couldn’t, just because they didn’t care to.  There was another painting, in another room by a different fellow, that was nothing but those tiny scenes of everyday life that usually populate the backgrounds, at most.  It was basically a painting of nothing but background, with tiny figures going about their business in one scene after another, until they got so small they were simple dots of paint made with a single hair.  This was about a hundred years later than the others, though I can’t be sure.  Another thing to remember, the most crucial of all: bring a good notebook for doing this writing in, don’t rely on a computer.  And make little sketches and notes about all the brilliant art, be in art school again.  This is so necessary I can’t belive I didn’t think about it beforehand.  Oh, and a huge giant memory  card for my camera so I don’t ever have to worry about running out of room.  And a quality plug converter, that I don’t have to carefully support with a ritual dance and a stack of stuff.
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Rome the glory of art [Feb. 14th, 2008|10:57 pm]
Well, I haven’t updated this in ages.  Four whole days.  I don’t even know where to begin...I’m already starting to lose track of Florence, it’s been so long ago.  Emily started out a little antagonistic towards the place, though by the end she was admitting it wasn’t all that bad.  The whole experience is somewhat sucked away and blurred at this point, but I’ll do my best.  The crucial thing was the Uffizi Gallery...all the art in the world in one building.  Or it starts to seem that way at least.  The thirteenth century crosses that changed my mind entirely about that “primitive” period.  The figures were so full of life and sadness and beauty, much more than the jaded opportunities to show off technical skills of future centuries.  There was a painter none of us had ever heard of before, Lippi, with the most exquisitely delicate paintings I’d ever seen, even more than the brilliant Bodecellis.  I might look through some information about what’s there later and comment on things before I forget even more than I already have.  It was just....six hours of looking at art, and I didn’t get bored once.  It was room after room of glories and majesty.  

And then on to Rome.  Oh dear god, Rome.  The Vatican museum, with four miles of galleries, whatever that means.  With the best work of Raphael, including the last supper.  With some more modern art I took photos of, because they didn’t try to stop you there.  With, of course, the Sistine chapel.  It’s such a game, there, trying to figure out which stonework is actual stone and which is painted on.  So gorgeous, so painful for my poor neck, craning up to look.  And sad too, because I knew Michelangelo didn’t really want to do it, but it was impossible to say no to the pope back then.  It took him away from his sculpture for so many years.  Because as stunning as the Chapel is, as much as it influenced the course of art for centuries to come, it’s his Pieta in St. Peter’s that is the single most incredible work of art I’ve ever seen in my life.  Even now, days later, I almost start crying when I think about it, that’s how overwhelming it was.  My first thought was surprise at how small it was, and then frustration at the wall of bulletproof glass that kept everyone about 10 feet away, and only let us view it from one side.  So antithetical to sculpture.  But I stayed, and I stared.  And I absolutely lost myself in the wondrous details.  And eventually I realized that it’s not really a Christian work at all.  That’s not Mary sitting there, it’s every woman who ever lost a son.  It’s every child who had to accept that someone they loved was never coming back.  It’s every man who buried his wife of sixty years, and then moved on with grace, with a sigh, to the rest of his life alone.  There’s something completely above and beyond anything I’ve ever seen in that hunk of rock that somehow makes it about the entire human experience with death.  All in the posture of a woman holding her dead son.  As soon as I realized that, I was too overwhelmed and had to move on.  Otherwise I could have stayed there for hours, I think.

So that was Rome for me.  There were a lot of other gorgeous, fascinating  things, but I was able to take photos of most of those that do them justice.  And now I’m in Sorrento, a fishing village with so many lemons in their trees they have to make a silly liquor out of them, limoncello.  And there’s this hotel here that’s still figuring out what it is, so they’re charging about half of what they should be.  So I’m in a palatially huge (at least for Italy) room with marble floors, a balcony, a view of the lovely huge cliffs one one side and the Mediterranean far off to the other.  And I’ve said and half meant it that there’s too much art in the world.  It’s like my soul is so stuffed full of beauty that no more can really get in...and yet it can, of course, it always can.  But it’s like I’ve been a sponge that only ever got maybe a handful of water thrown on it, but now I’m saturated and dripping.  More water can be thrown on, but I can’t truly absorb it.  Which is so ridiculous.  But it’s late again, and I have to get up early again, so I’ll have to finish squeezing out my brain some other time.
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the overwhelming rush of it all... [Feb. 10th, 2008|06:50 pm]
The complexity and intensity of the experiences I’ve been absorbing have been increasing exponentially.  Hard to believe it’s only been three nights since that quiet evening in Bologna, the city Emily’s been living in for five months.  That was a normal city that just so happened to be Italian.  Thousands of years of history, yes, but that absorbed reasonably well into a collective modern sensibility.  Or maybe it was just that I hadn't absorbed how different it all is.  I'm sure that's part of it.

We spent about 24 hours in Venice, arriving in the early afternoon and leaving the next evening.  This is a city that has barely changed since 1500.  It's hard to express what that means in words.  The sensation of walking down the tiny twisting alleys and looking up at buildings so real and dirty and ancient that you almost expect some laughing 17th century fop in a mask and cape to come around a corner at you....to see the deep black soot under arches from torches that might have been removed before the United States was founded...but then at the same time it’s like you’re in a Venice themed shopping mall.  Pretty much everyone speaks English.  There’s a hundred little shops, selling mostly the same overpriced, pretentious souviners and lazy art.  But then you spot a little walkway that takes a sharp left into a low dark tunnel, which opens up after a bit into a courtyard lined with the same little apartments that were there in 1400, and another walkway coming in over the roof of one of those to another level of entrances, and you’re transported again and the whole thing makes sense.  And we did manage to find the one most perfect shop in all of Venice, so absurdly wonderful that we could almost half believe the owner was a gnome and the place had already vanished into a fairytale again right after we left.  The place had no name, we never managed to figure out the address, though I know it’s on Murano and I think (I hope) I could find it again.  He and his daughter made the most enchanting candleholders/sculptures out of bits of colored glass and gracefully dripped pewter, which when you looked closer transformed from randomness into perfect little figures.  He spoke nothing but Italian, which we’d already been informed by my sister simply did not happen in Venice, the theme park of Italy.  But there he was, barely five feet tall, singing along with his opera, making jokes about Pavorotti, beaming and chattering...and his art nearly moved me to tears, it was so true and perfect.  The one my mom bought was only 120 Euros, or about $180, maybe half of what I would have paid for it and thought it fair, and he let me and my sister pick out a couple of glass trinkets for free on the way out.  I’m already regretting not buying the one I had my eye on....but not too much, because I know I’m going back someday.  Even today, in Florence, just 24 hours or so after I was last there, I was looking down alleys, charming medieval alleys, and being a bit disappointed because they weren’t narrow enough.  I’ve always been charmed by old houses where nothing quite fit together right, and there might always be another secret passage or nook to discover.  Venice is the city-sized version.

I have to be up in seven hours, so Florence will have to wait.
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My First Italian Day [Feb. 7th, 2008|10:26 pm]
As I was getting ready to leave Seattle for a month, there was a mist of rain on me and I looked up and the sky shining in a sky more clear than it was clouds.  It was nice of the city to say goodbye to me with my favorite weather.  The trip was surprisingly civilized and torturous both.  I didn’t sleep at all from when I woke up on the 5th until I got on the train from Zurich to Bologna on the 6th.  Maybe 11pm-to 4am I slept, local time.  Then not again until an afternoon nap today.  Until that nap it was about 5 hours of sleep in 48 hours.  I started breaking down physically, one little ache and twitch after another, after a hike earlier in the day on an old stone walkway under old stone arches (666 of them, strangely enough) up to an old and glorious monastary on a mountain overlooking Bologna.  Old meaning that there was a notice of gratitude for funds for restoration dated 1764 or thereabouts.  Old old.  But I’m going all out of order.  So many days to cover, and my mind’s still a bit scrambled it seems. 

Our hotel for the first two nights is perfect, a little place you can hardly find in the midst of a tangle of tiny medieval streets lined with little shops and stalls selling everything from flowers to chocolate to entire pigs, preserved snouts and all.  That first morning, after my family got me off the train and after I sat reading while they slept, I realized how absurd it was to be sitting in a hotel room on my first European morning.  So I slipped out and wandered the tiny streets in the cold morning air, while the vendors set up their wares, and people stared at me.  Maybe because I couldn’t help staring at them a bit.  Gen-u-ine Italianos.  I got satisfyingly lost, then found myself, or the hotel, or both, and returned refreshed and giddy. 

After the hike today, and the nap, we set out on a dinner adventure, and found some perfect food.  The whole meal wasn’t perfect, certainly , and there was way too much of it.  But the antipasto we ordered, meaning to share one plate but getting each our own instead, was divinity itself.  Little rectangles of polenta, fried then dripped luciously with a local creamy cheese.  The richness and vitality of the flavors as they blended made little noises of appreciation inevitable with every bite.  Each one cleared out by a sip of wine.  This may end up largely being an annal of food experiences
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Heath Ledger [Jan. 23rd, 2008|03:10 am]
I'm really a lot more upset than I thought I could be about the death of someone I don't know personally.  Definitely has something to do with the shock of it, though now I'm just as shocked by how emotional I am. It's just that I had this certainty that someday I'd feel about him how my parents feel about people like Robert Redford and Clint Eastwood. I had this realization a few years ago that people of my generation were growing up finally, existing as adults, as artists, not as pop stars, and doing good work. Though I've been noticing it more and more in visual art and music, that first moment of realization was based on actors, and Heath Ledger was one of them. He was a couple of years older than me. I'd already been an appreciator of his since Roar, since 1997, and I was already excited about what he'd be doing when he was 50. 
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